Episode 6  • 1HR 3MIN

Beyond Top-Down with Susan Aposhyan:

Body-Mind Psychotherapy and Embodied Spirituality

About the Podcast

The Therapy Wisdom Podcast is a space where those stories come to life. Hosted by Brian Spielmann, each episode brings you into conversation with the remarkable faculty behind Academy of Therapy Wisdom.

The Story Behind the Episode

How to be a better therapist? It begins by shifting the focus from “mind-body” to body-mind, moving from intellectualization to a state of core flow. In this deeply experiential conversation, Therapy Wisdom Podcast host Brian Spielmann, founding CEO of Academy of Therapy Wisdom, a leading continuing education platform for mental health professionals, welcomes somatic pioneer Susan Aposhyan.

Susan Aposhyan, a body-mind psychotherapy expert and founding director of the Body Psychotherapy program at Naropa University, discusses her evolution toward “BMP 3.0″—an integration of clinical excellence with embodied spirituality and natural intelligence. They explore the science of “rainbow body” concepts, the role of circular attunement in the therapeutic relationship, and why the future of healing requires us to prioritize human intimacy over rigid professional credentials.

Strategic Answer Blocks

How can I integrate body-based practices into my clinical work if I’m a traditional talk therapist?

Susan Aposhyan: Start by simply asking your client, “How does that feel in your body right now?”. If they are fearful or resistant, don’t force it; instead, cultivate your own embodiment and “core flow” as a therapist so you can circularly attune to their nervous system without needing to use “body” language until they are ready.

What is the “Manifestation Cycle” in Body-Mind Psychotherapy?

Susan Aposhyan: It is a process of starting with your own embodiment—clearing the spine and opening your tail—to connect with the larger universe, then asking, “What am I wanting in my life right now?”. By feeling that desire permeate every cell of your body, you shift your physiology toward the ability to manifest that change more easily.

Is there a scientific basis for “embodied” intuition in therapy?

Susan Aposhyan: Absolutely; research by figures like Candace Pert and Miles Herkenham suggests that up to 98% of what we call cognition occurs outside of the brain. Embodiment practice allows us to receive information chemically, electrically, and electromagnetically from the world and our clients, cultivating intuition far beyond our innate baseline.

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